by congress. you have seen an increase in spending and asking for fresh spending on defense issues in spending.n of fresh if you look at our stores on nutrition, health for low income families, housing -- those types of things. the budget is a way to reach forward with continued funding. the new stories, the earned credit, the child tax credit, that is news coming out of the budget. host: any thoughts on the differences between cuts and reforms, what she brought up earlier? guest: that is a great point because cuts, are, of course, cuts. what republicans are trying to is not the cast as the party of coldhearted budget-cutting. ryan struggled with this is a issueskesman on poverty for the last several years. republicans are trying to talk about poverty reform. and ryan talks about the importance of job training and work for these programs. reform case for broader -- is that breaking through for republicans? it is difficult to say. i do not think so, yeah a lot of ways. there,hen you are out you hear questions like hers, is this just budget cuts. parties are both trying for reform. is purelyent'